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Post by alftupper » 19 Feb 2019, 11:08

yesterdays Survation poll carried out for the Daily Mail suggests the new independence party are already the third largest party with an 8% vote share gaining most of their votes from Labour. Hard Left Labour are now 5% behind the Tories.

how about Derek Hatton for the next Shadow Business Secretary :lol: ...never rule anything out with this lot

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Post by CasRus » 19 Feb 2019, 11:37

I agree with you Alf.

Labour are finally about to crack and it will the Tories who will be the biggest party for a long long time to come !

Admitting Derek Hatton back into the Labour Party after 34 years speaks volumes and the country at large will not allow a Marxist, Comrade Corbyn led party to take over the running of this country - he'd run this country onto the rocks just like his touting of Venezuela as a model country he'd like to copy !!! Ha Ha ! what a Plonker !!

The Bell is about to toll and call time on Labour and they will become a very small party at the next election similar to the Lib Dems - Watch This Space ! This is deja vous happening all over again - remember Michael Foot !! Poor old Jeremy will very soon be pensioned off to his allotment !

This new Independent movement has the makings of being a NEW Labour party and I aren't against this as it's always healthy to have a choice and if some Tories join (as Tories also have their problems don't forget), they may become a force against pure Tory but having said that, Nigel Farage's new party may take a few seats - It all smacks of nobody really being in total control and I think it may resort to a coalition led government in the future.

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alftupper wrote:yesterdays Survation poll carried out for the Daily Mail suggests the new independence party are already the third largest party with an 8% vote share gaining most of their votes from Labour. Hard Left Labour are now 5% behind the Tories.

how about Derek Hatton for the next Shadow Business Secretary :lol: ...never rule anything out with this lot
Remember when the polls had the Tories 20 points in front of Labour in about April 2017?

How did that work out for you?
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you can understand WF10 being upset at the recent developments. Hard left all his life with no hope of ever seeing a government sharing his leftist views then the beardy comrade comes along and his hopes are raised but all he’s done is guarantee many more long years of Tory governance. Happy days!

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Post by CasRus » 19 Feb 2019, 12:24

Let's herald poor old Jeremy out of the Commons with:-

"Oh Jeremy Corbyn , Oh Jeremy Corbyn" !

He hasn't learned that his leftist views along with all his followers haven't got a scooby doo of current mainstream politics and has no chance of getting in !

Even against a weak Tory leader with no Charisma in the last election he totally failed to gain power when they were there for the taking ! If they had had a leader more centrist, they would have won !

He is too old in his thinking and which harks back to the 70s and is still practising Dinosaur Politics ! The world has moved on !

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Post by WF10 » 19 Feb 2019, 13:22

Oh please.

'Current mainstream politics' where everyone is on the take with decisions being made for the benefit of big businesses and their wide variety of stakeholders rather than improving the lives of people in the UK.

Any wonder there has been a concerted effort, by numerous organisations and individuals, to undermine Jeremy Corbyn?

This Independent Group that was formed yesterday is not a political party, it's a private company. Registered in Panama. Both of these things means it doesn't have to disclose where the money comes from.
Wonder why?
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Post by CasRus » 19 Feb 2019, 13:40

Does Venezuela and Russia ring any bells !!!

Both ended up in Marxist dictatorships where the few people at the top have stripped all the assets out and not passed it on to the common people !

So much for your ultra left wing thinking !

At least the people are free here to make their own lives with free speech and not subject to disappearing never to be seen again !

Big business provides jobs and yes there are some taking the p... in paying themselves wodjes of cash which needs to be addressed (I agree with you on that) but there are businessmen with principles who do pay their taxes - Dyson for one even though he's now moving to Singapore which makes business sense.

Left Marxist principles are the journey to hell I can tell you that - it's been proved time and time again !

Be thankful you were born in the UK - you could have been born in the Yemen for example with a totally crap life !

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Post by Flat Capper » 19 Feb 2019, 13:47

My dear right wing fascist friends, be careful what you wish for.

History tells us that following the revamp of Labour under John Smith and then Tony Blair, Labour came to power with an overwhelming majority. A move to a different course is the worst thing the Tories could hope for and that may be as simple as replacing Jezza but retaining the policies.
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Flat Capper wrote:My dear right wing fascist friends
that’s rich coming from a Momentum Party supporter

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alftupper wrote:
Flat Capper wrote:My dear right wing fascist friends
that’s rich coming from a Momentum Party supporter
I do not support Momentum and actually believe they should form they're own party, even though I share SOME of their policies. My comment is merely on a par with your oft quoted 'Loony Left' tag but I knew you'd appreciate it.
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Flat Capper wrote:My dear right wing fascist friends, be careful what you wish for.

History tells us that following the revamp of Labour under John Smith and then Tony Blair, Labour came to power with an overwhelming majority. A move to a different course is the worst thing the Tories could hope for and that may be as simple as replacing Jezza but retaining the policies.
At least there was a decent type labour Leader in John Smith which was an absolute shame he never had the chance to carry on and which let that toe-rag Blair in - he is a disgusting little toad and has the audacity to keep blowing his diatribe - He should have been prosecuted for the lies he told and that's on the back of a dodgy suicide with a weapons inspector ! He makes my skin crawl every time he appears on TV ! How proud were you labour lot when he was in charge with his centrist methods which gained him power ? Not exactly your comrade left ideology is it !

So then Flatcapper, who would you replace Comrade C with on these same policies as you put it ? John Mcdonnell ? Derek Hatton ?

You are starting to make me laugh my head off !! Anyone adhering to Corbyn's Dinosaur Doctrine would suffer the same fate ! I don't think I'm wrong here for a New York minute !

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Post by alftupper » 19 Feb 2019, 23:40

an 8th Labour MP has left the party claiming it to be racist. They are haemorrhaging seats :D

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Post by CasRus » 20 Feb 2019, 00:36

It's Bye Bye Corbyn Time !!!

It's coming !

Even tonight, Labour are totally out of sync with general opinion - Slagging off the decision to strip that excuse for a human being in Syria tonight ! well that takes the biscuit after saying she was ok with beheadings and in the next breath say we should show her compassion, sympathy and mercy ! Try explaining that to the families left after Jihadi John beheaded their family members who no doubt would have asked similarly for mercy and the hundreds of others by the sound of it with bins full of heads ! And she is ok with that !! Labour are an absolute embarrassment !

Also Rebecca Bailey trying to pin the Honda closure on the government's handling of Brexit when the Chief Exec in Japan clearly mentioned it was nothing to do with Brexit ! Mind you Corbyn likes to surround himself with lefty women that thinks he's god and place them in high positions just like Dianne Abbott and none of these women have a brain cell worth considering ! Just shows how below the belt Labour are to try to gain power !!

Let Common Sense Prevail ! I just don't get how you left people on here have the neck to defend labour - it's an absolute joke and you need to take a reality check !

I can't wait for this excuse of a Party to Crash ad Burn ! It will do them good to clear all this lefty trouble making amateur people who have high jacked the party

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Re: Jeremy Corbyn new Labour leader Lol

Post by alftupper » 20 Feb 2019, 08:11

WF10 wrote: It really does not matter, happily, what you think. These are the facts:

She is entitled to return - this is her state.
:lol: care to revise your facts. It’s proving to be a bad week for Labour, losing MP’s and now a core voter!

regardless of the long term outcome of this case it is great to have a Home Secretary who has a pair and has at least tried to do the right thing, I would guess under Abbott she would already be ensconced in a nice council house drawing 30 grand a year.

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alftupper wrote:
WF10 wrote: It really does not matter, happily, what you think. These are the facts:

She is entitled to return - this is her state.
:lol: care to revise your facts. It’s proving to be a bad week for Labour, losing MP’s and now a core voter!

regardless of the long term outcome of this case it is great to have a Home Secretary who has a pair and has at least tried to do the right thing, I would guess under Abbott she would already be ensconced in a nice council house drawing 30 grand a year.
Great that the Government can disregard international law in such a way in order for political capital.
You know as well as I do that all this 'decision' does is allow Javid to appeal to the gammons as part of his leadership aspirations and will be lapped up by the legions of 'closet racists.'
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alftupper wrote:an 8th Labour MP has left the party claiming it to be racist. They are haemorrhaging seats :D
Joan Ryan. Nope, me neither.
Quick bit of research reveals the following:
- Claimed expenses worth £173,651 the highest of any MP. This includes claiming her house in Enfield, north London. This is her second home and her flat in London is her first.
I suppose someone has to help fund the new party,

- Didn’t vote against welfare cuts but did vote in favour of David Maclean's Freedom of Information (Amendment) Bill, which would have kept details of parliamentary expenses secret.

Don't let the door hit you on the arse on the way out.
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WF10 throwing accusations and insults around about ‘closet racists’ is laughable when Labour MP’s and lifelong Labour members are leaving the Party citing ingrained racism as their reason!

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alftupper wrote:WF10 throwing accusations and insults around about ‘closet racists’ is laughable when Labour MP’s and lifelong Labour members are leaving the Party citing ingrained racism as their reason!
Alf, there's no worries here about WF10 - he's clueless, lacks common sense and in denial of what is smacking everybody in the face with common sense differences to what is considered right and what is totally wrong - He's stand for the drop of York and stand there having his proverbials kicked in and ask for more ! What an absolute plonker !

Applause for Javid who has grown a pair !

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Post by WF10 » 20 Feb 2019, 11:07

alftupper wrote:WF10 throwing accusations and insults around about ‘closet racists’ is laughable when Blue Labour MP’s and lifelong Labour members are leaving the Party citing ingrained racism as their reason!
Fixed it for you.

And Rus, if the below is what you consider 'right', I'm more than happy to be 'wrong'.

"Personally, I would get them all on a bus in Syria ready to go onto the plane home and blow the lot of them up."
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