Zak - The Truth

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Post by nottinghamtiger » 10 Oct 2017, 22:07

johnson wrote:Keep him at the club send him out into the community in to schools etc
Most schools require an enhanced disclosure to allow access to their premises and children.
I doubt he would be allowed into most schools with an assault on his record.
It's unlikely that head teachers are going to allow someone with a record of assault, homophobic abuse and class A use to influence their pupils.

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Post by Tiger53 » 10 Oct 2017, 22:12

nottinghamtiger wrote:
johnson wrote:Keep him at the club send him out into the community in to schools etc
Most schools require an enhanced disclosure to allow access to their premises and children.
I doubt he would be allowed into most schools with an assault on his record.
It's unlikely that head teachers are going to allow someone with a record of assault, homophobic abuse and class A use to influence their pupils.
Fair point.

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Post by JIN JER » 10 Oct 2017, 22:13

It's not a very good CV when you put it like that.

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Post by tigerfeat » 10 Oct 2017, 22:19

nottinghamtiger wrote:
johnson wrote:Keep him at the club send him out into the community in to schools etc
Most schools require an enhanced disclosure to allow access to their premises and children.
I doubt he would be allowed into most schools with an assault on his record.
It's unlikely that head teachers are going to allow someone with a record of assault, homophobic abuse and class A use to influence their pupils.
So what do you suggest happens next then?
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Post by nottinghamtiger » 10 Oct 2017, 22:31

tigerfeat wrote:
nottinghamtiger wrote:
johnson wrote:Keep him at the club send him out into the community in to schools etc
Most schools require an enhanced disclosure to allow access to their premises and children.
I doubt he would be allowed into most schools with an assault on his record.
It's unlikely that head teachers are going to allow someone with a record of assault, homophobic abuse and class A use to influence their pupils.
So what do you suggest happens next then?
Thinking that he will be welcomed into schools with his record is absolutely deluded.
Personally, I would put him into full-time adult education of some kind or other. It would have the benefit of giving him a focus and also support him after his rugby career. Perhaps some kind of vocational apprenticeship so he has a trade when his career comes to an end.

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Re: Zak - The Truth

Post by Jobo » 10 Oct 2017, 22:46

With a WADA ban you cannot play, train with the team or anything sport related. IIRC Wigan got clearance for Hock to train again towards the end of his ban. Zak would have to do same I guess but he would be coming into preseason effectively.

Hopefully someone will find something constructive to do with his time for his sake.

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Post by lurcher » 10 Oct 2017, 23:17

you are correct on hock, 3 months before the end of the ban.
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Post by RonnieGibbs'forearm » 11 Oct 2017, 07:55

What is the time frame roughly for official punishment to be handed out? That is the worry. We need to know what we are looking. What options we have with Hardaker and his contract/registration/wage/more importantly immediate replacement.
Hope find someoneand not shuffle the squad.
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Post by yorky » 11 Oct 2017, 08:29

"Zak Hardaker receives support from England team-mates" Last Updated: 10/10/17 7:29pm

http://www.skysports.com/rugby-league/n ... team-mates

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Post by tallguyx » 11 Oct 2017, 09:51

I still struggle to comprehend how a professional athlete can stick a unknown chemical into their body,I suppose young people probably see it the same as having 10 pints with their mates. I don’t understand it or want to but from what ive seen performance enhancing is the last thing it is.

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Post by TT Tiger » 11 Oct 2017, 10:47

I’m fairly sure cocaine like many drugs reduces refelex time and impairs judgement this is obviously some that can be dangerous when applied to a sport as dangerous as rugby. If it’s a wide spread problem call em all in and say we are not going to stand for it. There are plenty of kids that don’t quite make the grade that would be happy to take their place. Use some of Nigel woods pay in the tests.

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Post by da_jimbob_7 » 11 Oct 2017, 11:58

ERG2012 wrote:
takethetwo wrote:Its not so much as showing off though thats the problem .
Just a bully .
I was in the Green Dragon a few weeks ago and he was arguing with someone. The lad called him a w@**er and Zaks response : Yeah but Im a w@**er on 100 grand a year . Attitude stinks.
Not anymore he ain't... Idiot.

As a side note I did notice that on the WADA and UKAD websites you can contact them if you think someone is taking banned substances.... There's a thought
I've done it before. Nothing came of it.
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Post by KB80 » 11 Oct 2017, 12:25

da_jimbob_7 wrote:
ERG2012 wrote:
takethetwo wrote:Its not so much as showing off though thats the problem .
Just a bully .
I was in the Green Dragon a few weeks ago and he was arguing with someone. The lad called him a w@**er and Zaks response : Yeah but Im a w@**er on 100 grand a year . Attitude stinks.
Not anymore he ain't... Idiot.

As a side note I did notice that on the WADA and UKAD websites you can contact them if you think someone is taking banned substances.... There's a thought
I've done it before. Nothing came of it.
Same here. I have been reporting Jon Wilkin 3 times a week for the last 2 years.

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Post by InTheKnow » 11 Oct 2017, 14:44

KB80 wrote:
da_jimbob_7 wrote:
ERG2012 wrote:
takethetwo wrote:Its not so much as showing off though thats the problem .
Just a bully .
I was in the Green Dragon a few weeks ago and he was arguing with someone. The lad called him a w@**er and Zaks response : Yeah but Im a w@**er on 100 grand a year . Attitude stinks.
Not anymore he ain't... Idiot.

As a side note I did notice that on the WADA and UKAD websites you can contact them if you think someone is taking banned substances.... There's a thought
I've done it before. Nothing came of it.
Same here. I have been reporting Jon Wilkin 3 times a week for the last 2 years.
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Post by yorky » 11 Oct 2017, 17:08

some more interesting thoughts from the wigan observer

http://www.wigantoday.net/news/opinion/ ... -1-8798683

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Re: Zak - The Truth

Post by duke street 10 » 11 Oct 2017, 17:45

yorky wrote:some more interesting thoughts from the wigan observer

http://www.wigantoday.net/news/opinion/ ... -1-8798683
After reading that i have come to the conclusion he is either thick as mince or he has a real addiction :shock:

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Post by takethetwo » 11 Oct 2017, 18:12

Does he know what he's talking about though ?

Also says players have defected to Fiji (he means Tonga)

And they are basic spelling spelling mistakes .Maybe he needs an extra finher like us lol.
Joking aside , if Zak has taken it the day of a game that must mean addiction. A night out with friends is bad enough , friday dinnertime is a serious problem.

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Re: Zak - The Truth

Post by Jobo » 11 Oct 2017, 18:58

I've just read WADA and it does say that, unless the league has a different policy. I can't find one .....

Also found something that says it was definitely the case for football.

Is he an addict or as thick as mince - think the answer is yes to both

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Re: Zak - The Truth

Post by jackknife » 13 Oct 2017, 17:49

Just googled it, cocaine stays in ur blood for 12-48hrs but it stays in ur urine for 2-3days, if ur a chronic cocaine user is can stay in ur urine for upto 2weeks
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Re: Zak - The Truth

Post by Craigy B » 13 Oct 2017, 23:09

One thing that I don't get is, why did it take 3 weeks to get the results of the drug test? The company I work for regularly drug test people. Some times they're performed at the spur of the moment due to an incident at work. But they only ever take 24hrs the receive the results. So why did it take 3 weeks for a professional antidoping agency to test and reply to Zak's sample

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