Zak support

[Lofthouse Tiger]

Lets wait and see before we decide the rights/wrongs.

[Normyford2]

There is no way Powell would have dropped Zak before that game over a broken curfew that happened 3 weeks ago! There were rumours flying weeks ago that he had failed a drugs test! That coupled with what I heard this morning, also coupled with the rfl being involved all points to one thing! That he has infact failed a drugs test

[old cas lass]

Let’s hope he took to much calpol the night before and not a hard core drug.
If it is indeed drug related.

[remotetiger]

Anyone remember about 20 years ago when Steadman got a small ban. Think it was for cold medicine or something like that. Hence a drug test does not always mean the worst.

[Normyford2]

From what I hear it's sniff and knowing the company he keeps then it really doesn't surprise me! If he wants to hang about with local wannabe/ plastic gangster chavs then this is what will happen. He's not a bad lad at heart but very immature and childish in mentality and unfortunately for us, has cost us alot of money!

[ERG2012]

Anyone remember about 20 years ago when Steadman got a small ban. Think it was for cold medicine or something like that. Hence a drug test does not always mean the worst.

Nightnurse
Contained a mild steroid.

Alot more professional and savvy than 20yr ago now with a stronger policing of the supplements allowed

[Mysterio]

Forgive me if this offends anyone, and of course I'm not saying this is HOW it should be, but if someone likes to have a line of Cocaine in their own time;

What has it got to do with anyone else?

This is not a statement it is a question open for debate.

[Dez]

Performance enansing

[TownvillesTiger]

Forgive me if this offends anyone, and of course I'm not saying this is HOW it should be, but if someone likes to have a line of Cocaine in their own time;

What has it got to do with anyone else?

This is not a statement it is a question open for debate.

Illegal?

[nottinghamtiger]

Performance enansing

Cocaine wouldn't get picked up by a drugs test unless it had been taken less than 24 hours before the test.
It's also only deemed to be 'performance enhancing' if it is detected by an 'in competition' test (in the case of RL, this is deemed to be the date on which a game is played). If cocaine is detected by an 'out of competition' test, it's not deemed as a banned substance and therefore the player will not face a UKAD punishment.
Unfortunately, I would class a Hardaker as stupid enough to take cocaine the night before a game, a la Rangi Chase.

[Mysterio]

That's just it though - I am absolutely certain hardly any player EVER has taken it before or during a game, it's always seemingly in their own time, off the field, during benders or parties.

It's not particularly performance enhancing other than increasing confidence and calming nerves / concentration and could actually make players play worse! It wears off QUICK - there's NO WAY a player could be high on the pitch, unless he openly snorted it before kick off in changing rooms and/or during breaks in play.

There are people on this forum who without doubt will have had it too; and know what I mean.

In terms of performance- it's neither here nor there - players have more than enough stimuli from the game itself and crowd

Why take a players livelihood away for doing something in their own time.

[Mysterio]

And more to the point - why should anyone be tested for it in the first place?

It's not a steroid for example

I'm only debating this btw! I've felt this for a while...

[nottinghamtiger]

And more to the point - why should anyone be tested for it in the first place?

It's not a steroid for example

I'm only debating this btw! I've felt this for a while...

It is deemed as performance enhancing if it is taken 'in competition'.

[braytontiger]

That's just it though - I am absolutely certain hardly any player EVER has taken it before or during a game, it's always seemingly in their own time, off the field, during benders or parties.

It's not particularly performance enhancing other than increasing confidence and calming nerves / concentration and could actually make players play worse! It wears off QUICK - there's NO WAY a player could be high on the pitch, unless he openly snorted it before kick off in changing rooms and/or during breaks in play.

There are people on this forum who without doubt will have had it too; and know what I mean.

In terms of performance- it's neither here nor there - players have more than enough stimuli from the game itself and crowd

Why take a players livelihood away for doing something in their own time.

Never touched the stuff but would it act has a pain killer? I'm not trying to justify it in way just trying to make sense of it all.

[Normyford2]

24 hours is not correct! Can be upto a week! I personally don't care what he does in his spare time either mysterio!

[Normyford2]

Although I do believe as a rugby player he should be leaving that stuff until after the grand final!

[nottinghamtiger]

24 hours is not correct! Can be upto a week! I personally don't care what he does in his spare time either mysterio!

Okay, I was being simplistic. A urine test would detect cocaine between twelve hours and three days, depending on a multitude of factors (mostly how much has been taken!). But the average is 24 hours. If iit's detected after longer than this (using a urine test) then the individual has a serious cocaine problem.
It can be detected after a longer period of time through blood testing or hair analysis.
However, most UKAD tests are urine samples.

[Normyford2]

24 hours is not correct! Can be upto a week! I personally don't care what he does in his spare time either mysterio!

Okay, I was being simplistic. A urine test would detect cocaine between twelve hours and three days, depending on a multitude of factors (mostly how much has been taken!). But the average is 24 hours. If iit's detected after longer than this (using a urine test) then the individual has a serious cocaine problem.
It can be detected after a longer period of time through blood testing or hair analysis.
However, most UKAD tests are urine samples.

Well we only have a couple of hours to wait and we'll know for sure! I hope what I have been told is complete bs.... otherwise we need a new fullback!

[Archibel]

IF Zac has failed a drug test for Cocaine I for one never want to see him play for our club again.

Regardless of the performance enhancing/use in personal time debate...it is illegal and unforgivable given his position as a role model for hundreds of children, many of whom carry his name on their club shirts.

Taking drugs in private is one thing, but taking drugs when you are a role model for kids is something entirely different.

[braytontiger]

IF Zac has failed a drug test for Cocaine I for one never want to see him play for our club again.

Regardless of the performance enhancing/use in personal time debate...it is illegal and unforgivable given his position as a role model for hundreds of children, many of whom carry his name on their club shirts.

Taking drugs in private is one thing, but taking drugs when you are a role model for kids is something entirely different.

I think it opens up a huge debate after all players are only human and from what I gather it's widespread in the youth of today especially with young men with money,the same has going for 10 pints on a fri/sat when I was that age. Yes it's illegal but it's also an addiction. With a very high portion of players suffering with depression you have to ask some serious question of is this how they get their thrills when they arnt playing. I certainly wouldn't hang him out to dry if he's honest enough to admit he has an addiction. All speculation until some kind of statement is issued.