thank goodness your back Hudds, good to have an update as i was becoming very concerned, thank you.HuddsTigers wrote:Construction is to commence in 2018 and will be completed in 2021, according to Axiom/Lateral.
There's 7 month of the year left and it did say Q2/Q3. We're only half way through Q2 - there's still a good 4 and a half months left of this. This is for Highways and Infrastructure to start.
Also another interesting article here https://www.calcalistech.com/ctech/arti ... 77,00.html
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No this means Next are cutting back and don’t want a garden centre so they have split the units to lease to seperate tenants.HuddsTigers wrote:Lateral have just applied, and had granted, a non-material amendment to separate the Next unit and the proposed garden centre within it into two units.
This means there will be Next AND a garden centre unit. This was approved last week.
The retail and restaurant market is on its backside, developers are struggling to get tenants in similar developments in the surrounding areas. Why would they risk starting on site at this point? Lets be realistic.
I’m not saying this means the ground won’t get built, but would you pay out for a ground to unlock a development you might not build for a few years? Maybe they will to get it out of the way, who knows. Only the developer, don’t kid yourselves that Cas have any idea what is going on here. Or are even considered.
In my experience the retail development is at least 2 years away from a physical start on site. This is a huge development, it’s common to take 5+ years to start on site from inception. It’s how it works unfortunately. Forget the groundwork’s, they are necessities required to unlock the land for any development. They often sit completed for years until structures commence. Once the infrastructures in I’ve seen sites change from retail to residential, it always depends on the market and what’s commercially viable at that point in time.
Hopefully the ground is deemed one of the necessities and completed to tick a box. I think that’s the best we can hope for. I am a cas fan honest!
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john wells said in his first meet the fans event that work on building the stadium will start in the 3rd quarter of 2019 and we'll be playing there in 2021. at this moment in time and with all that's going on I think I choose to believe wellsy.
also thanks once again hudds
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Which is precisely what is said on the Axiom website.lurcher wrote:john wells said in his first meet the fans event that work on building the stadium will start in the 3rd quarter of 2019 and we'll be playing there in 2021. at this moment in time and with all that's going on I think I choose to believe wellsy.
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I did say it would be Next AND a garden centre.dannyboy1036 wrote:No this means Next are cutting back and don’t want a garden centre so they have split the units to lease to seperate tenants.HuddsTigers wrote:Lateral have just applied, and had granted, a non-material amendment to separate the Next unit and the proposed garden centre within it into two units.
This means there will be Next AND a garden centre unit. This was approved last week.
I don’t think it alters the size of the Next in any way. I think they were always listed as separate spaces eg 44,000 retail with 1k Sqm ancillary outdoor area for garden products included from/with/as part of Next.
It’s a few weeks since I read the application, though so I’ll go back and fill in the gaps.
As for the rest of the post, the development is being forward funded. They did one for a development in Reading where they obtained £9m of forward funding for an M&S store.
They already have funding in terms of loans from Leeds Regional Development Funding for the start of the on site works and infrastructure. The stadium is the actual physical building being built first and that’s not until Q3 2019 in their timeline. Up until then it’s mainly highways, landscaping and the planting of trees etc, as well as the landscaping for the country park.
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"Castleford's biggest home crowd of the 1991-1992 season wasn't quite 12,000 while on average they'd sit around 6000 but the noise, the chanting and the singing just blows you away" - Tawera Nikau "Standing Tall"
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Stuff like this is why i'm enthusiastic about it happening. There seems to be a collective will and huge support from major parties to get it all built.alcasfan wrote:https://www.insidermedia.com/insider/yo ... ss_article
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but strangely hudds not from some naysayer cas fans.HuddsTigers wrote:Stuff like this is why i'm enthusiastic about it happening. There seems to be a collective will and huge support from major parties to get it all built.alcasfan wrote:https://www.insidermedia.com/insider/yo ... ss_article
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The axiom development is seen as the future for these shipping centres. I look forward to seeing it tbh and the ground up the road. I think there's top much invested for it to fail even now.
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Breaking News - hot off the press:
The team behind Axiom and the new Stadium state that they have been working on the Reserved Matters application for the stadium and will be showing final designs on the 21st/22nd June in Castleford at a location to be determined.
They also add are working hard to be on site by the end of summer, definitely this year with a 3 year build timeframe with everything open, including retail, by Sep/Oct 2021
Team also say they are ‘frustrated’ but have to respect confidentiality when it comes to announcements but are planning to release news throughout the summer of exciting brands, some of which will be new to the UK.
The team behind Axiom and the new Stadium state that they have been working on the Reserved Matters application for the stadium and will be showing final designs on the 21st/22nd June in Castleford at a location to be determined.
They also add are working hard to be on site by the end of summer, definitely this year with a 3 year build timeframe with everything open, including retail, by Sep/Oct 2021
Team also say they are ‘frustrated’ but have to respect confidentiality when it comes to announcements but are planning to release news throughout the summer of exciting brands, some of which will be new to the UK.
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For anyone wanting to listen, Axiom were interviewed on the Leeds Live podcast available here: https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/best-in-le ... s-14690670
Also available on iTunes in full for anyone who wants to listen later.
Also available on iTunes in full for anyone who wants to listen later.
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thanks for the update Hudds, very encouraging.
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keep getting good information from hudds but wont believe it in till they start building the dam thing nothing happing on site at all was suppose to start doing something in April just put some flag poles up lets keep hoping for some movement in next few months and the company less talking about ityorky wrote:thanks for the update Hudds, very encouraging.
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I’ll be happier once the ink is dry on those contracts signing up the retailers. The whole thing hangs on that happening and until it does doubts will continue to persist. Cautiously optimistic but the sooner enough are confirmed to make it viable the better.
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I think this is exactly what m and s want. A flagship store to show their wares and facility to order online in store with free delivery. A bit like Argos but you can see and try the product on. Free delivery if not in stock.Flat Capper wrote:Wonder if M&S are still involved?
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Listening to the M&S executive's interview on TV, they are closing some traditional stores but opening others to fit recent shopping habits i.e. On-line, and out of town big stores with free parking. I don't know how successful the retail units in Junction 32 actually are, but the place is always busy.mart0042 wrote:I think this is exactly what m and s want. A flagship store to show their wares and facility to order online in store with free delivery. A bit like Argos but you can see and try the product on. Free delivery if not in stock.Flat Capper wrote:Wonder if M&S are still involved?
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M&S live off their food sales - they may put a food hall in place which will be a good revenue creator
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I thunk we are moving towards a shopping centre where you can try on any size and colour of an item and order. It makes sense as most people find what they are after and get it cheaper online. But there is a place for a company so that you can see and feel their stuff.
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they closed the one in Bridlington last month. the article in the local paper about it said M+S saw large out of town stores as the future.cogito ergo sum wrote:Listening to the M&S executive's interview on TV, they are closing some traditional stores but opening others to fit recent shopping habits i.e. On-line, and out of town big stores with free parking. I don't know how successful the retail units in Junction 32 actually are, but the place is always busy.mart0042 wrote:I think this is exactly what m and s want. A flagship store to show their wares and facility to order online in store with free delivery. A bit like Argos but you can see and try the product on. Free delivery if not in stock.Flat Capper wrote:Wonder if M&S are still involved?
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