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Re: Should webbo be dropped

Post by The Firm » 20 Apr 2018, 23:32

Webster had a bad game yes but lets not throw the baby out with the bath water here. He rarely lets us down and will ne mortified at that, he deserves support and the chamce to put it right which i’m sure he’ll do.

Roberts though is another matter. It’s about time the hide and seek champion got put out to grass.

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Re: Should webbo be dropped

Post by WallTiger » 20 Apr 2018, 23:55

We had too many players off their game tonight and were beaten by the better team but lets not forget we also had a short turnaround after a gruelling Easter programme in which we played 2 games in horrendous conditions. I’m therefore surprised Powell didn’t rotate the team a bit more.

Also whilst Hicks wasn’t great and was not the reason we lost his penalty against Webbo in the 1st half for interference on the last was laughable. He never changed his line and the pathetic Sky commentary team could only say he ‘accelerated’ and that’s why the penalty was given! So you can’t run fast now...seriously you couldn’t make this crap up sometimes. Is it a wonder the game is losing credibility.

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Re: Should webbo be dropped

Post by Davc1h » 20 Apr 2018, 23:58

The Firm wrote:Webster had a bad game yes but lets not throw the baby out with the bath water here. He rarely lets us down and will ne mortified at that, he deserves support and the chamce to put it right which i’m sure he’ll do.

Roberts though is another matter. It’s about time the hide and seek champion got put out to grass.
Totally agree, Webster had a mare but we can forgive that as he is normally excellent.

Roberts just not doing it at the moment and Gale kicking is woeful at best.

Some soul searching for DP this week.

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Re: Should webbo be dropped

Post by flow » 21 Apr 2018, 00:57

you don't need to be an expert to see what s up missing an attacking full back as totally frown are game were miles away from last years attack dry pitch today no excuse about playing in bad conditions same result no secound half attack at all . said not getting a top class centre would come back and bite us half way through season . Future aim as to be to sign attacking fullback and big go forward centre who can also pass . If it means off loading some forwards for salary cap.

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Re: Should webbo be dropped

Post by Danny Boy » 21 Apr 2018, 07:25

Jake had his worst game in a Cas shirt, but as every supporter knows, he’s usually one of our most consistent players in attack and defence, it’s not the time to write Jake off yet, I’m sure he’ll come back with another barnstorming game v Wakey!
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Re: Should webbo be dropped

Post by tallguyx » 21 Apr 2018, 07:52

I think 1st half we weren’t far off, the burgess break was lucky he caught jake off balance. They got plenty of momentum from the referee,that escorting penalty was the other mistake he made but in second half Wigan did it loads we got nothing.

I think with Eden in we would’ve been closer In score,disappointing yes end of the world no.

As for Hicks the less said the better near the end that decision he changed when Wigan ranted at him was a joke. And the missed free play for us.

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Re: Should webbo be dropped

Post by ERG2012 » 21 Apr 2018, 08:04

Most players have a "Mare" though Webbo will be the first one wanting to rectify his below par performance. I think we have other issues to sort out before Jakes' performance. Though as someone else has eluded to is it the first signs of him being exposed due to wear and tear along with age?

Our kicking game - never hits grass nor attain enough distance for territory. It's terrible and so easy to defend against. - Sam basically had to stand there and catch it....not move....then launch the attack.... We rarely split the back three if ever. Plus penalty kicks to touch. Another 15m should be simple at this level. The engine room would love you for it!

Our Fullback - this is a top priority. Goes to show what difference it makes when you have a good un. Trueman doesn't have any authority for me but our best option at the moment.... Which is why we have to make it a priority signing

Our Disapline when we are in the opposition's 20. We piggyback teams with basically stupidity. It's the chance to apply pressure or force an error. Milner needs a rest whether his contract is due for renewal or not he's a liability at the moment.

DP needs to make players aware that they are not untouchable when it comes to selection.

Players need to look at their own personal performance and be honest with themselves and ask are they performing to their potential. There's a few expecting the likes of Millington to be consistently going the business without stepping up to the plate themselves. Personally I would have made Millo captain a few seasons ago.

Our second half syndrome is a massive concern.

We need a shake up squad wise and get some serious quality in instead of the endless "project" options. Marquee signing needed at 1 or 6.

Lots of work to do after last night. We're away from Saints and Wigan and it's not just losing Hardaker that's causing our problems

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Post by heritage1926 » 21 Apr 2018, 08:13

I personally think it's time Shenny gets dropped from the captaincy. I was watching him in the huddle everytime we conceded and he doesn't say a word, he just stands there staring at the ground. He offers no words or motivation yet you watch Gale and he's screaming. It wasn't even just last night, unseen to mention it to people every week at games. For me it's time someone else stood up and let Shenny get on with his game, he's been poor this year for me.

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Re: Should webbo be dropped

Post by Riggins » 21 Apr 2018, 08:38

Big fan of Webbo and the bloke will be hurting after his performance last night as will a number of others. But these are proud professional players and they know they need to right some wrongs against Wakey on Friday.
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Re: Should webbo be dropped

Post by Fumper27 » 21 Apr 2018, 08:50

Dropped, no. Rested, maybe.

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Re: Should webbo be dropped

Post by gateman » 21 Apr 2018, 08:57

Yes Jake had a bad game one of the first I have seen him have two missed tackles costing us dearly, I have been harping on this forum that he should be used more sparingly he may have lost us this one but a fit Jake Webster would be part of my team , if we are going to look at non performers last night Roberts followed by Shenton would be well up my list, I thought our forwards matched theirs as far as the ref enough said

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Re: Should webbo be dropped

Post by RonnieGibbs'forearm » 21 Apr 2018, 09:06

He deserves a rest. As do a couple others. But Wakey at home is a must win for.
Hoping Millo is ok.
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Re: Should webbo be dropped

Post by tigerfeat » 21 Apr 2018, 09:13

Webster had a shocker but every week hes good hed be first name on my team sheet for wakey ...milner and roberts wouldnt be on there that is for sure
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Re: Should webbo be dropped

Post by casjunction » 21 Apr 2018, 09:33

We have come along way when being beaten by Wigan by sixteen points seems a disaster.
Webbo had a bad game ok it was so noticeable as it is such a rarity.
I think we all agree Milner is becoming a little too obvious and too frequent with trying to slow the game down, his commitment to the cause is unquestionable.
A lot of poor options last night but don't intend to single out anyone for criticism, again the other Jake is copping a fair bit of stick a youngster having to play in an unfamiliar role.
A lot of questionable refereeing decisions .
Holmes put in a good shift but stand out player was the one legged Millo.
Not great but as has been said before nothing is won in April.
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Re: Should webbo be dropped

Post by GThornton » 21 Apr 2018, 09:41

Danny Boy wrote:Jake had his worst game in a Cas shirt, but as every supporter knows, he’s usually one of our most consistent players in attack and defence, it’s not the time to write Jake off yet, I’m sure he’ll come back with another barnstorming game v Wakey!
Totally agree. Jake has actually been getting better with age. One bad game shouldn't meen we write him off.

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Re: Should webbo be dropped

Post by onetiger » 21 Apr 2018, 09:47

all you who are ready to slate webbo after one bad night
what about the other games were he as won games for cas
every single player as off days just give the guy a break will you
only one game counts in the season and thats in oct leeds proved that last season

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Re: Should webbo be dropped

Post by Casmoley » 21 Apr 2018, 10:12

Last year the right edge was pretty settled, Minikin Webster Mcmeeken Roberts. I don't think it's working swapping and changing during the game, we start with Wardle, then bring on Meeks, Then Wardle onto the left and Holmes in the middle. This can't help communication and consistency. Wardle even mentioned in a interview he would prefer to stay on one side because Gale and Roberts are different players. 4 one on one misses get made tonight it's a different story, Wigan didn't pressure us too much more than that. Hicks disgraceful. Webbo worst game in years. Roberts attacked the line once which is his strength. Poor all round.

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Re: Should webbo be dropped

Post by fords » 21 Apr 2018, 10:33

InTheKnow wrote:Dropped is the wrong word. Rested yes. Play Wardle at centre with Mcmeekan inside him. Pace and power on the right will do us no harm.

No its not. Massey was dropped for previous 1 or 2 games as his performances were not up to standard. DP said that himself.

So if that's the case so should JW. He was skinned by a very average Burgess twice

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Re: Should webbo be dropped

Post by fords » 21 Apr 2018, 10:43

WallTiger wrote:We had too many players off their game tonight and were beaten by the better team but lets not forget we also had a short turnaround after a gruelling Easter programme in which we played 2 games in horrendous conditions. I’m therefore surprised Powell didn’t rotate the team a bit more.

Also whilst Hicks wasn’t great and was not the reason we lost his penalty against Webbo in the 1st half for interference on the last was laughable. He never changed his line and the pathetic Sky commentary team could only say he ‘accelerated’ and that’s why the penalty was given! So you can’t run fast now...seriously you couldn’t make this crap up sometimes. Is it a wonder the game is losing credibility.

Hold on before Easter we have played 2 games less than the rest of the teams, so thats no excuse

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Re: Should webbo be dropped

Post by fords » 21 Apr 2018, 10:46

onetiger wrote:all you who are ready to slate webbo after one bad night
what about the other games were he as won games for cas
every single player as off days just give the guy a break will you
only one game counts in the season and thats in oct leeds proved that last season

Its DP who drops players for a poor performance as he's said before. So if thats the case then yes he should be dropped next week.

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