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Call to the club : In-house Testing

Post by Mysterio » 24 Apr 2018, 21:52

I for one am absolutely fed up of speculation. Ill founded or not.

As a club constantly punching above our weight, we simply cannot afford to allow any future loose canons derail our season or upward trajectory.

To this end, I urge the club to bring in house testing in.

A plain old urine sample can quite easily detect drugs such as Cocaine, amphetamine or opiates. There is little reason we shoul not deal with this ourselves.
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Re: Call to the club : In-house Testing

Post by Normyford3 » 24 Apr 2018, 22:01

I agree with this, not just at cas but in rugby league as a whole, if the players knew they were being tested weekly then it would deter them from 'chancing it' and repeating a hardaker situation

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Post by gateman » 25 Apr 2018, 08:12

Seems a simple solution I don't know what the cost would be, casting my mind back did Raper when he was coach bring something like that for alcohol

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Post by Aid » 25 Apr 2018, 08:18

It is a no brainer. Should have started at the beginning of this season!

The other thing that the club need to start doing is monitoring the players. If they are hanging around with the drugs cheat Hardaker then Lynchy should be strongly pointing out the error their ways! Do not give a toss if he is their "mate" That is what Hardaker says about the plonkers that he knocks about with! "they my mates" and look where that got him!
cum on you Ford

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Re: Call to the club : In-house Testing

Post by Mysterio » 25 Apr 2018, 10:09

https://homehealth-uk.com/all-products/ ... roin-mdma/

£1 a test to joe public.
A huge bulk order will take that down to more like 10p a test!!
Look how much it covers too.
Get it in
NOW
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Post by ERG2012 » 25 Apr 2018, 10:39

Mysterio wrote:https://homehealth-uk.com/all-products/ ... roin-mdma/

£1 a test to joe public.
A huge bulk order will take that down to more like 10p a test!!
Look how much it covers too.
Get it in
NOW
Could be a good thing for the RFL to implement across the leagues
Shows that they mean business before it gets out of hand

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Post by heritage1926 » 25 Apr 2018, 10:50

ERG2012 wrote:
Mysterio wrote:https://homehealth-uk.com/all-products/ ... roin-mdma/

£1 a test to joe public.
A huge bulk order will take that down to more like 10p a test!!
Look how much it covers too.
Get it in
NOW
Could be a good thing for the RFL to implement across the leagues
Shows that they mean business before it gets out of hand
It's already out of hand, it's absolutely rife in Rugby League at the minute in every division. This is a fact, i know SL players who are doing it.

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Post by ERG2012 » 25 Apr 2018, 10:54

heritage1926 wrote:
ERG2012 wrote:
Mysterio wrote:https://homehealth-uk.com/all-products/ ... roin-mdma/

£1 a test to joe public.
A huge bulk order will take that down to more like 10p a test!!
Look how much it covers too.
Get it in
NOW
Could be a good thing for the RFL to implement across the leagues
Shows that they mean business before it gets out of hand
It's already out of hand, it's absolutely rife in Rugby League at the minute in every division. This is a fact, i know SL players who are doing it.
Been rife years.
Though it needs addressing pronto

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Post by Fumper27 » 25 Apr 2018, 11:30

heritage1926 wrote:
ERG2012 wrote:
Mysterio wrote:https://homehealth-uk.com/all-products/ ... roin-mdma/

£1 a test to joe public.
A huge bulk order will take that down to more like 10p a test!!
Look how much it covers too.
Get it in
NOW
Could be a good thing for the RFL to implement across the leagues
Shows that they mean business before it gets out of hand
It's already out of hand, it's absolutely rife in Rugby League at the minute in every division. This is a fact, i know SL players who are doing it.
Report them to the RFL then...

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Post by Easy Tiger 2 » 25 Apr 2018, 12:32

Great idea Mysterio,we can pioneer it and try and stamp it out and deal with it in house.

An ex player told me who rife a certain white substance is in Rugby League and it needs stamping out

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Post by fords » 25 Apr 2018, 12:39

heritage1926 wrote:
ERG2012 wrote:
Mysterio wrote:https://homehealth-uk.com/all-products/ ... roin-mdma/

£1 a test to joe public.
A huge bulk order will take that down to more like 10p a test!!
Look how much it covers too.
Get it in
NOW
Could be a good thing for the RFL to implement across the leagues
Shows that they mean business before it gets out of hand
It's already out of hand, it's absolutely rife in Rugby League at the minute in every division. This is a fact, i know SL players who are doing it.
Yep go up Ponte and you will see 3 or 4 on it regular including the one that just got caught recently ....

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Re: Call to the club : In-house Testing

Post by SY Tiger » 25 Apr 2018, 13:05

Supporters have voiced their disgust and displeasure at the drugs situation surrounding RL and our club.
The idea of in house testing has been seized upon by some already. The cost seems to be not a great deal, so : How about it being funded by supporters. I for one would contribute to this.

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Post by mdean » 25 Apr 2018, 13:18

This always comes down to the question - do players play for a team as a job and get paid, or represent a club, town, sport and their supporters.

I think we all differ at times, I am a parent of kids and am big on the imagery and how RL players go about their sport and lives. I also want a winning team and when you sign players with "mistakes" in their past, it is always double edged. If I was the kind of person who enjoyed a substance on a weekend, is it normalised to me like drinking and do I care.

I don't have the answer, but a voluntary opt-in system would be easy to have in contracts, if a player opts out, then you have to make a decision about why potentially. Are we serious about making a stand, even if that had meant that 2017 didn't happen because we would never have had 1 or 2 of the elements that made the team so good?
It is a question, I am torn.

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Post by casjunction » 25 Apr 2018, 13:20

I suggested this a while ago as have other posters.
The cost is minimal where as the problem it will address is very costly.
It will stand the club in good light and may attract positive publicity and lead the way.
However l have no interest in drugs but the criminality attached to it is a lost war, legalise, regulate and tax the money from it fuels many other crimes.
The stakes in sport are so great ,the players ,competitors feed on adrenaline and may make them more susceptible to drug use.
Got to feel for Daryl this is not the ethos he has endeavoured to develop.
WADA also needs to speed it's processes up from detection to banking.
Hope this will be the last fear it will not be the final chapter.

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Post by Mysterio » 25 Apr 2018, 13:55

I have a nasty nasty feeling that all clubs in the sport know about it, accept it (or at least turn a blind eye to it) and off the record instruct players to be as sensible and take precautions as much as possible.

We may find that no player wishes to sign for us BECAUSE of the testing.

If cocaine / ecstasy use is as rife as I am told throughout Super League, we may be in the minority of clubs prepared to take a stand (if we indeed do take a stand) and lose appeal to potential new signings!

Rugby Players by their very nature all have a wild man streak in them. Bar none. It’s why they are good at the game.

My take on it is that every single coach in the game is acutely aware that they take a risk when signing & then attempting to control their group of players.

Of course, there are many good men in the game, men who don’t take drugs or get into trouble. That’s one of daryl’s best assets and was also Stuart Raper’s; they manly sign the right blokes. But still, always are aware of the risks.

So, we’d be taking the entire sport on. It needs to happen though.

You’re right casjunction, I did suggest this as far back as the late 90’s and so on, this is having been in the company regularly of international sportsmen, not exclusive to RL, who would consume cocaine or ecstasy on big nights out. A Saints legend in particular was a monster at it, as was many many players from the upper echelons of RL.

In fact, it was almost a given, way back then.

You have to ask yourself - why do they do it? What is missing or wrong in their lives. I refer back to the Wild man streak and risk associated....
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Post by Mysterio » 25 Apr 2018, 13:58

....and way back then, there was a back hander given out to influence the testing. The players referred to it as ‘pooling’.

If you’ve heard the term you’ll know I know what I’m on about.

I’ve not revealed any of this for two decades, and never will name anyone, but, the time has come to eradicate these life destroying substances from our game. Then attack other games!
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Post by casjunction » 25 Apr 2018, 14:38

I agree Mysterio.
It could initially deter some players from signing from us but if the RFL made it a mandatory requirement for every club and player it would be good for the game and show our sport as bold and pioneering.
Headlines for all the wrong reasons we can do without.
Regardless of what and who the latest issue relates to let's act now.
Send a clear and unequivable message as that irritating tanoy says Rugby League is a family game......

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Post by mart0042 » 27 Apr 2018, 10:06

Cas have made themselves a true family club. To be at the forefront of a massive initiative would be fantastic, however, let's not knee jerk to a rumour.

The club tries so very hard with the mental health part, this would be the next step with alcohol and drugs.

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