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Re: No longer a rumour.... ZH

Post by old cas lass » 24 May 2018, 18:14

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HuddsTigers wrote:Sorry - it doesn't make sense.

If Zak had an income guaranteed Cas enough to cover his mortgage payments, and the security of a contract on his return, why would he pay out costs for a legal bill he wasn't guaranteed to win?

Surely he'd take the deal (given he's got a deal on his return) and sack off the legal chase and take the ban as it was. Sorry, it completely doesn't make sense. :roll:
It will make less sense when he realises that if Cas sue him for BoC, he’ll be sending most of that extra money our way.
If he was offered 80k by Cas and 130k by Wigan (let’s assume both on a four year deal) then he’ll earn 200k more over the four years. If Cas sue him for BoC, he’ll owe us the money wasted on his transfer fee, the money we spend on a replacement and he’ll have to cover our legal costs. It will add up to more than the extra money he’s getting paid.
As per usual though, he’s far too stupid to realise this.
I hope we persue him with the vigour we perused Solomona. In my view Zak’s case is worse - at least we got Solomona for nothing - and it’s a more straightforward case with a clear precedent. For all those criticising Steve Gill, he was the one who made sure we fought the Solomona case and came out on top. I hope we have someone else with that kind of integrity and determination to make sure we’re not just going to let Zak walk off into the sunset and leave us out of pocket.
Hope Jon wells on the case as we write.

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Re: No longer a rumour.... ZH

Post by Fumper27 » 24 May 2018, 18:33

old cas lass wrote:
nottinghamtiger wrote:
HuddsTigers wrote:Sorry - it doesn't make sense.

If Zak had an income guaranteed Cas enough to cover his mortgage payments, and the security of a contract on his return, why would he pay out costs for a legal bill he wasn't guaranteed to win?

Surely he'd take the deal (given he's got a deal on his return) and sack off the legal chase and take the ban as it was. Sorry, it completely doesn't make sense. :roll:
It will make less sense when he realises that if Cas sue him for BoC, he’ll be sending most of that extra money our way.
If he was offered 80k by Cas and 130k by Wigan (let’s assume both on a four year deal) then he’ll earn 200k more over the four years. If Cas sue him for BoC, he’ll owe us the money wasted on his transfer fee, the money we spend on a replacement and he’ll have to cover our legal costs. It will add up to more than the extra money he’s getting paid.
As per usual though, he’s far too stupid to realise this.
I hope we persue him with the vigour we perused Solomona. In my view Zak’s case is worse - at least we got Solomona for nothing - and it’s a more straightforward case with a clear precedent. For all those criticising Steve Gill, he was the one who made sure we fought the Solomona case and came out on top. I hope we have someone else with that kind of integrity and determination to make sure we’re not just going to let Zak walk off into the sunset and leave us out of pocket.
Hope Jon wells on the case as we write.
I don’t, I hope he’s focusing on today’s game :) :) :)

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Re: No longer a rumour.... ZH

Post by HuddsTigers » 25 May 2018, 00:32

I hope he was signing up a defensive full back.
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Re: No longer a rumour.... ZH

Post by Flat Capper » 25 May 2018, 13:39

Can't see cas suing ZH...
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Re: No longer a rumour.... ZH

Post by nottinghamtiger » 27 May 2018, 10:46

Flat Capper wrote:Can't see cas suing ZH...
I think there needs to be serious questions asked if we don’t. We aren’t a club who can afford to waste £150,000 to see a player breach his contract and walk off into the sunset. I thought that with the Solomona saga, we’d sent the message out that we are not a club to be taken advantage of. Allowing Hardaker to get away with a very similar course of action would seem to suggest that players can simply breach their contract and go elsewhere without any kind of repercussion.

Hardaker has said of his dismissal:
“I wasn’t surprised because I’d breached my contract, so it was fair enough.”

So the player has admitted to breaching his contract (which was obvious anyway given his suspension) and will be earning a very good wage come later this year. Why on earth the club wound not sue him is beyond me, and failure to do so would suggest the club is not running as a professional business. By not suing him, we are flushing the £150,000 down the toilet, which is not the hallmark of a professionally run club.

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Post by Mysterio » 27 May 2018, 13:03

nottinghamtiger wrote:
Flat Capper wrote:Can't see cas suing ZH...
I think there needs to be serious questions asked if we don’t. We aren’t a club who can afford to waste £150,000 to see a player breach his contract and walk off into the sunset. I thought that with the Solomona saga, we’d sent the message out that we are not a club to be taken advantage of. Allowing Hardaker to get away with a very similar course of action would seem to suggest that players can simply breach their contract and go elsewhere without any kind of repercussion.

Hardaker has said of his dismissal:
“I wasn’t surprised because I’d breached my contract, so it was fair enough.”

So the player has admitted to breaching his contract (which was obvious anyway given his suspension) and will be earning a very good wage come later this year. Why on earth the club wound not sue him is beyond me, and failure to do so would suggest the club is not running as a professional business. By not suing him, we are flushing the £150,000 down the toilet, which is not the hallmark of a professionally run club.

I would agree.

Think about it - if Wigan on zaks behalf, or Zak himself, settled with us for 75k for example, that could secure the signing of Mata’utia or the likes.
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Re: No longer a rumour.... ZH

Post by Flat Capper » 29 May 2018, 12:19

I certainly wouldn't question the Club if they did pursue ZH for breach but as this will also cost us money, both along the way and ultimately if we lose the case, I can see the powers that be thinking it's not worth it.

We can live in hope though...
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Re: No longer a rumour.... ZH

Post by TT Tiger » 30 May 2018, 10:12

If only we had a learned law bachelor as a director of rugby?

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Post by Mysterio » 30 May 2018, 12:52

TT Tiger wrote:If only we had a learned law bachelor as a director of rugby?
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Post by The Fox » 30 May 2018, 13:01

TT Tiger wrote:If only we had a learned law bachelor as a director of rugby?
Someone who graduated but has never practiced Law.............

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Post by JJ » 30 May 2018, 14:03

There is a difference between having a law degree which is an academic qualification and practising law though which follows professional examinations.

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Post by Tamworth Tiger » 30 May 2018, 15:01

Not only that, there are a lot of very different legal jobs that you can specialise in with those qualifications

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Post by Spanishtiger » 30 May 2018, 15:12

If the club were to pursue ZH, I'd presume that they'd use the same legal team that won the Solomona case.

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Post by MØL » 30 May 2018, 15:40

Richard Cramer & Martin Williams (both from FrontRow Legal) Also Nick Randall QC.

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Re: No longer a rumour.... ZH

Post by flow » 02 Jun 2018, 16:41

his zak all ready disrupting wigan since announced wane don't want him and said was leaving days after zak signed some off wigan top players did not want him . today wigan looked a shadow off early form lets hope they drop off a cliff and we can challenge for second

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Post by lurcher » 02 Jun 2018, 17:21

they've lost both their games since wane announced his departure.
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Post by tigerfeat » 02 Jun 2018, 17:23

If he hangs about till end of season they will lose a lot more
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Re: No longer a rumour.... ZH

Post by lidds » 02 Jun 2018, 19:43

Anyone else seen the video of Sam and Joel Tompkins doing the rounds (I won't post a link but can easily find on Facebook or Twitter)

Looks like a great environment for someone like Zak to be......

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Re: No longer a rumour.... ZH

Post by Outlaw13 » 02 Jun 2018, 20:15

lidds wrote:Anyone else seen the video of Sam and Joel Tompkins doing the rounds.
https://getemonsideblog.com/2018/06/02/ ... bar-staff/

Let’s hope the RFL/Wigan take appropriate action.

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Post by tigerfeat » 02 Jun 2018, 20:18

Wonder how old this video is may have something to do with wane leaving
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