You say I'm missing the point. Surely incompetence should be dealt with. Sure all refs and humans make mistakes and have to be accountable. Thierry takes it to another level. He didn't have to make a split second decision, the decisions he made were there for all to see. Anybody with only a limited knowledge of the game could have made the correct decisions. Why should a supposed professional be allowed to get away with that total and utter incompetence? I know I would have been fuming if it was the other way round. Our game has suffered from appalling refereeing standards for too long and they can't even get it right with the latest technology. If we can't even get it right with this then let's do away with it. I don't believe fellow Cas fans would have mentioned Thalers 'unprofessional' behaviour if these decisions were against us, we would have been too busy slating Thierry (and rightly so).Tamworth Tiger wrote:You're missing the point. If it's OK to criticise poor refs then coaches wouldn't get fined for doing it . They all do it . Thaler's own failure to use the video ref in 2014 when Saints knocked on in the last move of the match cost us top spot.Simon1967 wrote:The guy deserved criticising. Everybody else understood the rules, apart from the man making the decision. Absolute joke.Tamworth Tiger wrote:Of course it would if they openly and publicly criticised a fellow official in that way
It's not about Thierry's incompetence, which needs dealing with, it's Thaler's unprofessional reaction. He was well out of order.
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Still say you're missing the point. I dealt with it in my last post Thierry's incompetence should be dealt with but in the proper way and that isn't by hanging him out to dry in public to Todd Carney and thousands of people on TV who might be listening. Thierry should be dealt with as should Thaler.. And he has been I'm pleased to see. On the point of whether we wouldn't have said anything if the decisions were against us. A number on here did slate decisions both to award one try for us and one try denied us
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I'm still going with Garlic Breath making the right decision based on the position of the feet.
Still , Thaler can say what he wants this week as he won't be on telly.
Still , Thaler can say what he wants this week as he won't be on telly.
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I thought Monaghan only let go of the ball after it had left mcmeekan' head, so was still in control and a fair try. I did also think the Louis Anderson no try was a try.
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another awful performance last night from him and cobb
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yep, saints must be very disappointed with thaler and cobb after that.
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A certain try with 2mins left
God knows what Cobb was thinking
TRY 100/100
God knows what Cobb was thinking
TRY 100/100
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Its about time they got some of the rubbish that we are dished up with, we have been on the wrong side of decisions for years against saints, my bed sores weep for them
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Thaler always has to make it about him
He needs putting out to grass
He needs putting out to grass
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So trueTamworth Tiger wrote:Thaler always has to make it about him
He needs putting out to grass
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Unfortunately the producers at Sky tv made matters worse by wiring them up to a microphone. It is beyond me why anybody thinks people want to listen to 'moooove' 'hold HOLD!' being bellowed at them every 10 seconds. It is completely unwatchable in my opinion and when I do watch it is with the sound off.Tamworth Tiger wrote:Thaler always has to make it about him
He needs putting out to grass
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If Thaler has been demoted for not sending Ferres off then it seems harsh to me. From his position behind the three Leeds tacklers, there is no way he would have see Ferres' involvement so clearly. If anything, his touch judges, who were both better positioned to see what Ferres did, should be the ones answering questions about their performance.
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alftupper wrote:Unfortunately the producers at Sky tv made matters worse by wiring them up to a microphone. It is beyond me why anybody thinks people want to listen to 'moooove' 'hold HOLD!' being bellowed at them every 10 seconds. It is completely unwatchable in my opinion and when I do watch it is with the sound off.Tamworth Tiger wrote:Thaler always has to make it about him
He needs putting out to grass
i agree with alf its every game thaler is shouting and balling when there is no need for it
i wounder how many times he will go to screen this game??
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Thaler gets dropped for not sending Ferres off but Jack Smith never gets demoted for being horrifically bad.
That guy would still be reffing amateurs if it wasn't for his story and the RFL using him to get some column inches.
That guy would still be reffing amateurs if it wasn't for his story and the RFL using him to get some column inches.
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The refs can go to the video ref whenever they want and do so all the time, for drop outs, foul play and how to restart a match. The video ref can also jump in and speak to him. Both missed it but sky didn't both are guilty of incompetence and both should be demoted.
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The Ablett thing was the most bizarre decision he made in the match. He blatantly put his hand in Nuassallas face (some say gouging,which is what Frank claimed then Frank punched him. Result penalty Leeds to which Ablett bounced about like a celebrating monkey. At this point it had been shown on the screen numerous times and it was obvious he was wrong. Why didn't he reverse the decision.
Incidentally it was the second time in two weeks Ablett was accused of gouging. The mind boggles
Incidentally it was the second time in two weeks Ablett was accused of gouging. The mind boggles
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Sometimes the video ref almost runs the game and it undermines the ref but there are occasions when they are useless.
I saw the Ablett thing as gouging and don't know why they didn't report him either
I saw the Ablett thing as gouging and don't know why they didn't report him either
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What can kick and clap teach us? The ref goes up to the video ref after suspected foul play. The video ref and the ref consult on punishment, penalty, yellow red etc. The video ref also alerts the ref if any foul play is missed. After a try/no try, the on field ref can watch the screen and overrule the video ref., or at least discuss it.
I don't blame Thaler for not dismissing Ferres. Today you have to commit GBH to be sent off. Reading the Wigan and Leeds forums, Wane gets a blast for allowing Gildart back on for a while, and they knew more about his condition than Thaler did.
I remember the old refs, Sgt Major Clay and Thompson. No video, no cameras, a brutal game when refs "allowed" a degree of retribution, but were not slow to dismiss players. They were also personalities in their own right.
I don't blame Thaler for not dismissing Ferres. Today you have to commit GBH to be sent off. Reading the Wigan and Leeds forums, Wane gets a blast for allowing Gildart back on for a while, and they knew more about his condition than Thaler did.
I remember the old refs, Sgt Major Clay and Thompson. No video, no cameras, a brutal game when refs "allowed" a degree of retribution, but were not slow to dismiss players. They were also personalities in their own right.
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