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Post by WF10 » 30 Oct 2018, 09:32

It's almost like "austerity" was idealologically driven to just be able to make cuts to public services or something.

Who'd have thunk it?
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Post by alftupper » 30 Oct 2018, 09:59

Typical Labour, they hate good news when it’s a result of Conservative policy. They would rather see the country damaged to suit their own twisted ideology.

The Tories like myself believe everyone should get out there and work and they are slowly trying to change the mindset that evolved over 12 years of Labour government that the lazy, stupid and useless are rewarded more than hard working people. Better someone works for £12k a year than sits at home and is given it.

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Post by WF10 » 30 Oct 2018, 11:13

The good news that over 40% of adults in the country earn less than £12,500 p/a? £30-£40 per day?

The good news that £12bn has been cut from Universal Credit, yet £1bn has been given back?

The good news that there are 21,000 fewer police officers?

The good news that the digital service tax will bring in £400m on revenues of over £50BILLION?

The good news that there is more money provided for repairs of roads than there is for schools?

The good news that GDP per person is going to fall every year until 2023?

No wonder she dances.
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Post by alftupper » 30 Oct 2018, 11:26

WF10 wrote:The good news that over 40% of adults in the country earn less than £12,500 p/a? £30-£40 per day?
I’m happy they are out working and their kids can see them going out to work. I know you’d love to go back to the days of Labour giving them thousands to sit at home and breed the next generation of scroungers.

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Post by WF10 » 30 Oct 2018, 11:46

Play the ball, not the man.
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Post by Flat Capper » 30 Oct 2018, 13:37

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WF10 wrote:The good news that over 40% of adults in the country earn less than £12,500 p/a? £30-£40 per day?
I’m happy they are out working and their kids can see them going out to work. I know you’d love to go back to the days of Labour giving them thousands to sit at home and breed the next generation of scroungers.
Like all Tories, you twist the facts to hide your plans to drive down the working man. the true Socialist belief is that you should pay a man the right amount for the job they do. It is not better to drive down the working man to appreciate the fact he's got a job; it's better to reward him fairly to encourage him to work harder.

If 40% of adults are earning less than 12.5K pa then they are not providing for their families, they are barely surviving and indeed, still qualify for benefits as a result. Surely, if the economy is booming and austerity truly over, it must be possible to pay the working man more, increasing tax revenue.

I for one would be happy to retain the current tax allowance but ring fence the 'saving' from the proposed increase to help fund public services. Giving me an increase on the upper limit is pennies to me when compared to the amount that could be raised across the whole country if we retain the current level, and even increase %age I pay.
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Post by alftupper » 30 Oct 2018, 14:05

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Like all Tories, you twist the facts to hide your plans to drive down the working man. the true Socialist belief is that you should pay a man the right amount for the job they do. It is not better to drive down the working man to appreciate the fact he's got a job; it's better to reward him fairly to encourage him to work harder.
By definition if the market rate is £12k for a particular job that is all he/she is worth so this is ‘the right amount’ Surely the incentive is to work harder and educate themselves to progress to a higher paid job. Like a true socialist your entire philosophy is based on wet nursing the lowest common denominator

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Post by WF10 » 30 Oct 2018, 21:28

It's over 40% of adults in the UK that won't pay income tax because they don't earn £12,500.

Nearly half of all adults in the UK.

Ergo, nearly half of all of the jobs in the UK are 'worth' less than £12,500 p/a.

And I wonder who decides which jobs are 'worth' these paltry amounts?
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Post by alftupper » 30 Oct 2018, 22:18

WF10 wrote: And I wonder who decides which jobs are 'worth' these paltry amounts?
The market has been swamped with low skilled low paid eastern Europeans the free market is simply reflecting this through these wage levels.

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Post by Flat Capper » 31 Oct 2018, 13:20

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By definition if the market rate is £12k for a particular job that is all he/she is worth so this is ‘the right amount’ Surely the incentive is to work harder and educate themselves to progress to a higher paid job. Like a true socialist your entire philosophy is based on wet nursing the lowest common denominator
Perhaps you can explain to me why huge corporations need wet nursing with tax incentives rather than allowing the market to dictate the true amount of tax they should pay? You earn millions, you get taxed on all of those millions.
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Post by alftupper » 15 Nov 2018, 17:50

A no deal Brexit is looking more likely by the day

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Brexit can not be delivered.
Brexit fails whenever it is written down and scrutinised as we see when the architects of the push for Brexit [REMOVED] off one by one when they too realise it can't be delivered.
Only to stand in the sidelines and kick who ever is left holding the hideously ugly baby.
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WF10 wrote:Brexit can not be delivered.
Brexit fails whenever it is written down and scrutinised as we see when the architects of the push for Brexit [REMOVED] off one by one when they too realise it can't be delivered.
Only to stand in the sidelines and kick who ever is left holding the hideously ugly baby.
You can’t negotiate with Johnny Foreigner, Dave tried it in the lead up to the referendum and was sent packing. Brexit can be delivered but we need a committed brexiteer in no.10

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alftupper wrote:
WF10 wrote:Brexit can not be delivered.
Brexit fails whenever it is written down and scrutinised as we see when the architects of the push for Brexit [REMOVED] off one by one when they too realise it can't be delivered.
Only to stand in the sidelines and kick who ever is left holding the hideously ugly baby.
You can’t negotiate with Johnny Foreigner, Dave tried it in the lead up to the referendum and was sent packing. Brexit can be delivered but we need a committed brexiteer in no.10
You advocating Corbyn for PM here Alf? :lol: :lol: ;)
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Post by alftupper » 16 Nov 2018, 12:48

You’ve just reminded me how things could be much worse

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Post by CasRus » 18 Nov 2018, 18:49

Well here we are on a very crucial Brexit week and the May chequers plan falls way short of what we voted for.

Labour, who think they can do better are an absolute joke by tying us into a customs union and therefore not leaving as democracy has decreed. It;s great for them to be sat on the fence being non commital this past year and think they have the answers to a better deal !! I DON'T THINK SO !!

The 500 or so pages on the agreement has been condensed down by Reece Mogg's group into 7 pages as to what it really means and is a disaster as described today as being in "Hotel California" and never able to leave !!

Here is the link to the 7 pages which is taken from www.BrexitCentral.com run by Recce Mogg's group and if that doesn't tell you more about the EU leeching the hell out of us and being a pawn, I don'r really know what else I could say except that it makes total sense to go it alone with a no deal unless May can negotiate further:-

http://2mbg6fgb1kl380gtk22pbxgw-wpengin ... o-Know.pdf

Game On and I just think about all the war dead that fought and died to remain in charge of our own destiny would be turning in their graves at the politicians who have surrendered all this power to Brussels these past 40 years and being pupetteered by the Germans who lost the battle and have currently won the war by stealth ! We must be a set of numpties and a laughing stock !!

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For the record, the Second World War came about in an attempt to defend our European allies from a fascist, right-wing, dictator who murdered millions of innocent fellow Europeans. At the time we declared war we were not in direct conflict with Germany. We were also aided by the Russians who, at the time, did not consider democracy as the correct rule of government.

Following the end of the war, peace in Europe has been steadfastly maintained by the fact we have worked together for the common good, only failing in small areas where they were attempting to introduce democracy following the defeat of communist dictators. These areas were of course outside of the EU.
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Post by alftupper » 19 Nov 2018, 17:03

Thanks for the history lesson but I’m not sure what your point is... Brexit will lead to WW3?

Project Fear is alive and well in Fev! :lol:

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Post by CasRus » 19 Nov 2018, 17:40

Flat Capper wrote:For the record, the Second World War came about in an attempt to defend our European allies from a fascist, right-wing, dictator who murdered millions of innocent fellow Europeans. At the time we declared war we were not in direct conflict with Germany. We were also aided by the Russians who, at the time, did not consider democracy as the correct rule of government.

Following the end of the war, peace in Europe has been steadfastly maintained by the fact we have worked together for the common good, only failing in small areas where they were attempting to introduce democracy following the defeat of communist dictators. These areas were of course outside of the EU.
Er, hello ! Wasn't' the Dictator German voted into power by the German Nation and the very same attacked our shores with massive loss of life even though we tried to defend others at the start in stopping a dictator intent on world domination and thought his Germanic Aryian bloodline within his country was elitist and thought the Jews were scum ! ARE YOU FOR REAL !!! We would have been worked to death in Coal Mines etc as slaves with no rights if we would have been conquered and finished up looking like the jews in the death camps and finally put out of our misery !

I think you need to take a reality check as to whether you are True British or a red under the bed !!

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